Rob Schneider is a good actor and he has his point of view on all this and I applaud him for not calling Vote Yes people liars, traitors or idiots. But Rob is not a “journeyman actor”; he is quite successful and certainly in the league of several prominent Vote No actors. And Rob has some facts wrong.
The first one is the work slowdown. That was in effect long before the bottom dropped out of our economy,and it was because SAG had no contract as of June 2008. Sure, tax incentives are at issue as well, but the bulk of it is that studios don’t want to get stuck in production if a strike happens.
The second is the money for re-use on the internet. To present those numbers without context is very misleading. Right now, we get NOTHING AT ALL from new media. The new contract would give us TWICE THE DVD RATE as a start, AND we would have a look at the financial “books” to start finding out how big the pie actually is and therefore what we can negotiate for NEXT TIME. Also, per an AdWeek article, even Hulu, while bringing in money, is not making a huge profit. NO ONE HAS MADE THE NEW MEDIA BUSINESS MODEL WORK YET.
The writers went on strike and got the deal that was to be had. All other deals came from that template. It’s not satisfying nor does it lend itself to slogans, but that’s the reality.
I am an actor who just started working again after a long time in the “wilderness”, lucky enough to get a new agent in 2008, got my first TV job with the new agent in JUNE 2008, just in time for us not to have a union contract. I am VOTING YES for the best deal to be had at this moment, and there ARE good things in the deal. Anyone who tells you there’s nothing there is misleading you.
There is a big difference between “fair” and “gettable”. Right now, due in some measure to the poor negotiating skills of the previous negotiator, there is no better deal to be had. If we vote no, then what?? I keep asking that, and beyond having a strike, there is no credible viable answer to what happens next.
I’ll tell you what happens after VOTING YES. The work slowdown limbo can start to get improve. More new shows can go to SAG again. When the shows start filming in a couple of months, our pension and welfare fund will get money. And the raises will go into effect. And we will get SOMETHING rather than NOTHING from New Media, as well as jurisdiction over New Media. AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A MERGER WITH AFTRA and seriously looking at what we have to do and where we have to get to in alliances with WGA and DGA to get better deals in two years.
"So many great painters, great musicians, great geniuses ended with nothing. With broken hearts in rooms with broken windows. I want to see artists sitting at the table that decide the outcome of their lives."
--Bono
May 28th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Rob Schneider is a good actor and he has his point of view on all this and I applaud him for not calling Vote Yes people liars, traitors or idiots. But Rob is not a “journeyman actor”; he is quite successful and certainly in the league of several prominent Vote No actors. And Rob has some facts wrong.
The first one is the work slowdown. That was in effect long before the bottom dropped out of our economy,and it was because SAG had no contract as of June 2008. Sure, tax incentives are at issue as well, but the bulk of it is that studios don’t want to get stuck in production if a strike happens.
The second is the money for re-use on the internet. To present those numbers without context is very misleading. Right now, we get NOTHING AT ALL from new media. The new contract would give us TWICE THE DVD RATE as a start, AND we would have a look at the financial “books” to start finding out how big the pie actually is and therefore what we can negotiate for NEXT TIME. Also, per an AdWeek article, even Hulu, while bringing in money, is not making a huge profit. NO ONE HAS MADE THE NEW MEDIA BUSINESS MODEL WORK YET.
The writers went on strike and got the deal that was to be had. All other deals came from that template. It’s not satisfying nor does it lend itself to slogans, but that’s the reality.
I am an actor who just started working again after a long time in the “wilderness”, lucky enough to get a new agent in 2008, got my first TV job with the new agent in JUNE 2008, just in time for us not to have a union contract. I am VOTING YES for the best deal to be had at this moment, and there ARE good things in the deal. Anyone who tells you there’s nothing there is misleading you.
There is a big difference between “fair” and “gettable”. Right now, due in some measure to the poor negotiating skills of the previous negotiator, there is no better deal to be had. If we vote no, then what?? I keep asking that, and beyond having a strike, there is no credible viable answer to what happens next.
I’ll tell you what happens after VOTING YES. The work slowdown limbo can start to get improve. More new shows can go to SAG again. When the shows start filming in a couple of months, our pension and welfare fund will get money. And the raises will go into effect. And we will get SOMETHING rather than NOTHING from New Media, as well as jurisdiction over New Media. AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A MERGER WITH AFTRA and seriously looking at what we have to do and where we have to get to in alliances with WGA and DGA to get better deals in two years.
May 29th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Everyone is entitled to incorrect knowledge and unbased assumptions.
I answered this comment, further, in the next post here at Hollywood Actor Prep.
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